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'Old CV', 'inappropriate gestures haunt former Ipid boss in Parliament

Mayibongwe Maqhina|Published

Former Independent Police Investigative Directorate head Robert McBride testified before Parliament’s Ad Hoc Committee investigating corruption, political interference, and criminal infiltration in South Africa’s criminal justice system.

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FORMER Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) head Robert McBride came under fire from MPs when he refused to disclose his current employment. 

He appeared before the parliamentary Ad Hoc Committee probing allegations made by KwaZulu-Natal police commissioner Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi about the alleged political interference in the SAPS.  

McBride’s appearance came days after former acting national police commissioner, Khomotso Phahlane told MPs of a coordinated campaign, allegedly driven by McBride in collaboration with Paul O’Sullivan, that led to the creation of the so-called “Phahlane Task Team” to destroy his reputation.

The proceedings on Tuesday got off to a bumpy start when McBride initially did not disclose his current employment although he confirmed working in the intelligence services.

“I am not allowed to say what my employment is,” he said.

McBride also told evidence leader Advocate Norman Arendse that the CV he was using to lead the evidence was outdated, prompting ActionSA MP Dereleen James to raise her concern that they were told the CV was outdated.

“That means we have a falsified statement. We can’t continue as if it is acceptable,” James said.

MK Party MP David Skosana said McBride’s employment cannot be a secret.  

In response, McBride said he could do so if he was given permission by his principals.

“I raised this issue with the evidence leader. I thought it was taken care of. I think most people know where I work,” he said.

McBride also said he did not have a new CV and did not have legal assistance.

Asked by Ad Hoc Committee chairperson Soviet Lekganyane whether there was any law preventing him from disclosing where he was currently employed, McBride mentioned Act 39 of 1994.

However, ANC MP Xola Nqola stated that McBride was not citing the legislation in a correct way.

“I don’t know why this information should be withheld. You can even Google where he is employed,” he said.

Nqola also urged McBride to stop making gestures when MPs were speaking.

In backing Nqola, MK Party MP Sibonelo Nomvalo said the ANC MP was not hallucinating about the gestures.

“We made similar observations. We must maintain the decorum. We are not being funny. We are here to work as MPs,” said Nomvalo, adding that McBride was making funny reactions using his face when Nqola and James spoke.

Nomvalo charged that McBride submitted a wrong CV and that he needed no legal advice to prepare a correct CV.

“The excuse the witness is giving here is invalid. He only tells us now when it is picked up by one of the members. We were made to read a wrong document,” said Nomvalo.

“What the witness did must be condemned with the contempt it deserves. It is wrong,” he added.

McBride then told the Ad Hoc Committee the law that prevented him from disclosing his employment was the National Strategic Intelligence act of 1994 and indicated that the prohibition was in the regulations.

However, DA MP Ian Cameron mentioned that the Intelligence Services Act of 2002 made prohibition for purposes of confidentiality and identity.

James found it odd that McBride could not state his current employment when his appointment was announced as a director of the foreign branch at State Security Agency (SSA).

“Why could he not answer that simple question?” she asked.

In his response, McBride insisted that he volunteered indicating the CV was old and that nothing was falsified.

“I did not leave out anything when speaking to evidence leaders,” he said.

Cape Times